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MIT Technology Review
12 mins | May 13, 2020

The man who built a spyware empire says it’s time to come out of the shadows

Shalev Hulio, co-founder and CEO of NSO, says his industry is full of companies trying to avoid scrutiny. Ten years after founding the NSO, the makers of Pegasus, one of the most famous spyware in the world, Hulio made the rare decision to speak about the company, the intelligence industry, and what transparency could look like for spyware companies. Talking to Patrick Howell O'Neill, from MIT Technology Review, he explains why speaking out is the "most important thing the industry can do now.

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